tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16603042.post4739064351832934396..comments2023-03-10T01:20:28.269+13:00Comments on Long Ago and Not True Anyway: The Existence DilemmaTerencehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17321549651265388367noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16603042.post-67318635142048281482007-11-24T07:03:00.000+13:002007-11-24T07:03:00.000+13:00Sure, an unknowable, unchanging, and omniscient go...<I>Sure, an unknowable, unchanging, and omniscient god is a valid concept, it'd just be nice if people payed attention to the meaning of "unknowable", and saw their "faith" for what it was.</I><BR/><BR/>hallelujah (I couldn't agree more)Terencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17321549651265388367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16603042.post-13688508514782015572007-11-23T23:23:00.000+13:002007-11-23T23:23:00.000+13:00By which I mean a private paternal/judicial person...By which I mean a private paternal/judicial personification attached to the modern practice of written moral and legal codes from historical cultures.tussockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01624091727724404725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16603042.post-32318360314236380202007-11-23T23:18:00.000+13:002007-11-23T23:18:00.000+13:00It's just another way of seeing the meaning often ...It's just another way of seeing the meaning often hidden in our language. "Creation" implies a lot of things to people that can't be true.<BR/><BR/>Sure, an unknowable, unchanging, and omniscient god is a valid concept, it'd just be nice if people payed attention to the meaning of "unknowable", and saw their "faith" for what it was.tussockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01624091727724404725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16603042.post-33713495588113207332007-11-22T17:45:00.000+13:002007-11-22T17:45:00.000+13:00hi tussock,I don't think that adding time into the...hi tussock,<BR/><BR/>I don't think that adding time into the equation changes anything in my initial dilemma.<BR/><BR/>I'm with you (the sphagetti monster and Kirkegaard) though - there's no reasoning one's way to (or from) god - that requires a leap of faith.Terencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17321549651265388367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16603042.post-44160722721392261972007-11-22T14:36:00.000+13:002007-11-22T14:36:00.000+13:00Technically, time was created in the beginning alo...Technically, time was created in the beginning along with everything else, there is no "before" the big bang because there is no time without space and energy.<BR/><BR/>The only place for an omni-creator is <I>outside</I> of time and space, which goes along nicely with the whole thing about god allowing you free will <I>and</I> knowing what you'll chose, or us being at the centre of creation along with everything else.<BR/><BR/>Then again, flying spaghetti monster. It does all that stuff too, you just need faith.tussockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01624091727724404725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16603042.post-50118243906462604412007-11-22T08:33:00.000+13:002007-11-22T08:33:00.000+13:00thanks!thanks!Terencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17321549651265388367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16603042.post-21456402367138559462007-11-22T01:37:00.000+13:002007-11-22T01:37:00.000+13:00That is about the most succinct rebuttal of the In...That is about the most succinct rebuttal of the Intelligent Design/Hawking - "Whats before the Big Bang?" theory that I have read. Now I can go back to being an atheist rather than a woolly agnostic. Thanks! Not bad for a self described amateur philosopher if you can convince people that easily.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com